A new process for electing city council persons is going into effect on Oct. 6. Previously we elected the entire Council every two years. Now, the terms have be lengthened to four years. So, it is most important that you are informed with your vote.
In the mayoral race, my choice is Eddie Ellington. He is intelligent, energetic, and researches. He has the ability to draw all parts of our city together. Eddie will make a fine ambassador for our city and we need young people in government with fresh eyes and ideas.
In Ward 3 my vote is going to Melissa Elliott. First, she is a home owner who pays taxes. Second, she has walked the path of many in our city and can relate to them. Third, she brings to the table experience in the area of crime.
In Ward 4 my vote goes to Blakely Bates. He impresses you with his youth, his eagerness, and his approachable nature. He can answer a question even if you do not like his answer. He will not be a yes-man.
In Ward 1 my vote goes to Marion Williams. She speaks with common sense, she speaks from experience, and she speaks up in a positive way. It is obvious she is running with progress in mind.
Our City has been controlled by the wrong voices for far too long. These voices need to be muted and we need progress. We need to get control of the things that are out of control and if we do not do it soon, then Henderson will continue to be first on all the wrong lists. We have tried it the New Direction Way and no progress was made. Let’s go the path of youth and intelligence and see if that will make a difference.
Mrs. Yount……the city of Henderson will never be in better shape until you get those same ole’ tired “seat warmers” off the council. With that said, I have to say I agree with your choices for the various wards but what about Mr. Kearney for Mayor? I have heard nothing but good things about him and from what I was told he served in the Military and to me that is worth a little more than just an afterthought. Do you know anything about him that would make you not want to vote for him for Mayor? From the report I got from someone in attendance most of the incumbents running for re-election couldn’t answer simple questions such as “what is the role of a city council member”. Does that not make you shake your head and wonder exactly what goes on at the City Council Meetings?
I don’t have a vote in this election but if the residents don’t get some “fresh ideas and/or faces” in the chambers you will continue to get the same results…….and I don’t have to tell you what they are b/c one thing I know about you is that you do your research!!!
+1 for Blakely Bates.
Posted on behalf of Elissa Yount: In a comment I was asked if there is anything I know about Mr. Kearney that would keep me from voting for him. Yes, there is.
First, when Mr. Kearney worked for the USDA, money was granted to the Embassy Foundation. In these dealings, I always felt Mr. Kearney was taking direction from the power brokers in Henderson. I do not want a Mayor who has played this game. While this was not generally publicized, it did not escape my attention that he then was appointed to Chair the Board of Elections. In my mind, this was a political favor returned. I do not want another elected official in Henderson to be a mouth piece for the status quo. We have had this kind of government far too long.
Second, Mr. Kearney as a council member has not been forceful in examining another council member whose family is invested in the apartments downtown. Neither has he questioned the wisdom of elected Council members sitting on Board of Adjustment and Planning Commission and then bringing their proposals to the Council for votes which keeps control in the hands of a few. This can be a tremendous conflict of interest.
Third, Mr. Kearney has not voiced opposition to the IBT plans which might eventually mean the water from Kerr Lake goes to Raleigh. The dealings with Franklin County and Louisburg have breezed by when serious inquiry should have been made especially when you know the manger of Louisburg and the head of public utilities in Franklin County both were employed by Henderson.
Fourth, Mr. Kearney, instead of promoting putting a moratorium on subsidized housing, said at the forum that he was in favor of building more houses. We cannot allow developers and landlords to keep control of our city.
And, most importantly, Mr. Kearney voted to retain a City Manager who has no educational qualifications for the job. This shows me that he was satisfied with the way things are running in Henderson as he did not seek sorely needed new expertise for our city.
In short, Mr. Kearney, who comes across as a pleasant, professional representative, has not done the job I would have expected him to do. For that reason, I would give youth a chance. A lot of the murky water around here needs to be agitated. A lot of deals that go on behind closed doors need to be aired. And, a lot of what has been business as usual needs to come to an abrupt halt. We need to break some connections. My fear is that none of this will occur with Mr. Kearney as Mayor.
I agree with Mrs. Yount. I would add one comment. Mr. Kearney has done nothing to collect the $1.8 million dollars which has been owed to the city for over 10 years. This money was loaned to the Embassy Foundation as “seed money”. The promise was made to repay the money and any buildings would be deeded to the city free of any debt. This was confirmed by 3 city council members who were running for Mayor.
Hello RR–The voice of common sense has checked in–glad you’re back. I have missed your posts
WOW….like I said earlier….Mrs. Yount does her research. The Henderson City Council will never be as good and fiscally responsible as it was when Yount and Harper were on the council.
Also, I see mention of what I posted the other day about a sitting council member having a financial advantage with the apartments downtown b/c although they aren’t in “his” name…they are in his daughter’s!! People get charged and go to Prison all the time for abusing their authority as a public servant. Remember the Mayor of New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina? I think his name was Ray Nagin and he’s currently serving time in Prison for taking $$$$ for various projects that were being funded by the govt. b/c of the magnitude of Katrina’s destruction. Who on the current council is willing to stand up and do what’s right? If their is some “shady back room deals” going on then if you are a man/woman of any integrity whatsoever and you are aware of them how do you sleep at night?
I’d be willing to elect the person who is brave enough to open up the investigation into this as the Mayor of Henderson b/c that’s the type of leadership and character Henderson needs. And if the investigation reveals that nothing wrong was done and all the deals and inside information was “on the up & up” then I’d say we offer this current council member a public apology. Sweeping it under the rug only leads to speculation………………hmmmmmmmm
Forgot to ask Mrs. Yount what her opinion of the “self proclaimed” community activist Clarence Dale was. I heard he mentioned that he made the comment that he was instrumental in helping getting the 1st White Female Judge on the Bench in District 9 and after a quick search I’m guessing he was talking Amanda Stevenson b/c she’s the only white female Judge in District 9. Wonder what he did to help her get elected? Also, wonder why your choice for Mayor Eddie Ellington feels the need to have a picture of himself with Clarence on his mayoral website. Certainly he doesn’t feel like he needs Clarence to get elected or will this be another of Henderson’s infamous elections where the Church vans are already getting gassed up? Out of the 3 Mayoral Candidates I don’t see how the lady Somerville has a chance but I do think she will get enough votes that it will affect the other 2 guys in either helping them win or lose the election. Henderson ain’t what it used to be…..according to my granny!!
You also said you would vote for Elliott? Why? She was the only candidate to mention the possibility of raising taxes if what I’m being told is correct. Is that the best/only option for Henderson? I mean people can’t pay their taxes now and folks are leaving here faster than a fart in a whirlwind and you want to raise taxes? You can’t make this stuff up if you tried!! Makes for interesting conversations at Hardee’s in the mornings…….or so I’m told!!
With all due respect to Mrs. Yount, this city DESPERATELY needs “developers” to come in and build more houses! It’s a great thing that Mr. Kearney placed a moratorium on more subsidized housing in Henderson. If you haven’t noticed, most single family residences in Henderson are mostly aging, dilapidated mill houses or circa 1950’s construction. There are VERY few new homes being constructed in Henderson with the majority of the homes in the last 20-30 years being constructed in the Country Club area. With the property crime rate and the gun violence, there is simply no reason for a middle class family to build in many areas of Henderson. The homes that have been built (through HUD I believe) sat empty for years because they could not find anyone in the target demographic who could afford to buy the home who wanted to invest their hard earned money in the area. While I’m not advocating denying access to the poor for subsidized housing, at some point a balance needs to be struck and new construction needs to take place. This ensures that more people have access to better, more affordable housing.
What qualifications does Mr. Bates have? Does Henderson really need someone with limited knowledge of government? What is his occupation and prior experience to make these decisions?
Here’s a question, not sure of the answer. In a three person race, such as the one for mayor, what % is needed to be declared a winner? I believe that in the past it is the one with the most votes and at least 40%. Is that correct?
Enough with the letters to the Editor…..either the voters put you in office or not….enough with the “telling citizens how much one person can change that dump”!! I wonder if SHPC will be rolling their vans to the polls? SMH!!!
I would highly encourage everybody to read the story that takes up two-thirds of today’s News and Observer front page! I guess a handful of good people can make a big difference in changing at least part of our “dump.” We just need more doers and fewer talkers.
It was nice to see something good about Henderson on front page of today’s Raleigh paper
Lol….ask Henderson Collegiate top brass what the process is to get a student enrolled!! Vance Charter has a lottery & does it open to the public. Ask Mr. Sanchez when their lottery will be. Even with young Beach 4 America staff the school is producing these test scores? Not very likely unless they are pulling Top students only……which was rumor I heard while in the area.
Seriously?
As expected, Decept swoopes in to crap on anything that might be positive about Vance County. What is the source of this strange compulsion? Inquiring minds want to know. Self-generated rumors, Decept?
Publius I see that good ole’ Vance Co work ethic has rubbed off on you. Do your own homework on the school. I gave you the “meat & potatoes”…u do the rest. I would say I expect an apology after you find out what I posted was factual……but that would require you to have some CLASS(which you’ve Proven otherwise)!!!
Teach 4 America staff……not beach 4 America…if u cant laugh @ yourself….dont laugh!!
Sorry Decept, why is this your concern? ( Note the lack of comma, which makes “sorry, ” an adjective.). Don’t you live at the Butner Correctional Center?
I still do not like the fact that Vance Charter or Henderson Collegiate are considered public schools. Neither have the same requirements as true public schools such as transportation, free/reduced lunch, and open enrollment. It has to be an advantage for a school to say they are at capacity. How would that work if every public school decided they were “full”? Also, I think it should be a requirement for charter schools to publically show how many students leave the charter during the year.
OK, let me see if I have this straight: somehow Henderson Collegiate staff has some kind of clairvoyant insight as to who the brightest students are among some of our poorest citizens – although their academic records are private – and they somehow persuade them to come to their school, where miraculously they produce some of the top scores in the state!! That just defies all logic. Read the story!!! There’s nothing going on here that’s under the table. It’s not magic. They’re doing it with hard work, dedicated teachers, sound discipline and involved parents. I agree, the public schools are handcuffed in some of these areas. But what this school is doing is a wonderful thing.
And don’t disparage Teach for America – do a little research: these kids are some of the best and brightest students in the country. They don’t always stay for longer than their 2-year commitment, but they bring energy, dedication and fresh ideas to our schools. They give more than they get.
Deception, why don’t YOU do your homework on Henderson Collegiate? As I have suggested before, you could go over there and take a look for yourself, and talk to the teachers and staff. They have nothing to hide. They’re proud of what they’re doing, as they should be. You haven’t given us any “meat and potatoes” – all you’ve given is a thin gruel of rumor, which will quickly boil away if you hold it up to the light. Quit shooting at the good guys!!
Hey, Deception, I heard a rumor that Elvis was living on an island in the middle of Kerr Lake. My aunt saw him at Big Lots. Think I’m wrong? PROVE IT!!
Dook…..you follow the playbook on HIH to a “T”!!! When your “project” is graded w/o the “curve” you go into a rant. FUNNY!!! Here’s the ORIGINAL ? for ya….when & where is the next lottery going to be held? Do YOUR research b/c we all know what happens when you ASSUME……U make an *** out of u & me.
Rants dont work…..not here sugar!! Can my granddaughter get into HC? When is the lottery? SMH!!!
Sorry, I do tend to rant when people try to bring trouble to honest causes. I wish I could settle for innuendo and unfounded accusations but that’s not the way I was brought up.
Let’s start with this. Deception – does your granddaughter want to attend Henderson Collegiate? Has she applied and been denied admission? It has been my impression that most middle and upper class folks around here don’t even want to ride through the neighborhood, much less send their children to school there. Has that changed and now they’re being turned away?
My point validated…….if only anyone knew how to “get into” the lottery!! Oh……I forgot….it’s a secret?
Vance Charter advertises on various mediums to get the word out about their upcoming lottery….how does HC do it? Secret ballot? All the HC lovers on HiH haven’t been able to deny the account that the lottery doesn’t either exist or is “open” to a certain population with certain demographics and/or education levels…..if only those who challenge my points knew of which they speak!!
Here’s a point for you to discuss….ever heard of the school system/LEA that was getting BIG payouts from the govt. due to increased Test Scores? Last I heard nearly all those involved were convicted and some even went to Prison. I’m not saying that’s the case at HC but if it’s a TRUE Charter School the “goings on” need to be a little more public(Tax Payers Do Fund It) and a little less private.
Talked to one of my friends over in Granville Co. last night about this very subject and she brought it to my attention that a local school in Vance Co. had been denied a “charter” status b/c of unfound accusations by someone in the community. She said this local school already had the buildings/ball fields/gyms/etc. that tend to hinder the charter schools in the beginning. It was rumored that certain folks in that area were worried that this now private school was trying to get its charter stays and thus the unfound accusations started flying around like the trash beside NC39.
Still waiting to know about the procedure on how to get my granddaughter into HC since evidently their isn’t a lottery?
SMH!!
The fountainhead of rumors-Decept.
Publius……you seem to be the PERFECT one to answer the question……When is the lottery @ HC? Certainly if you don’t know you will at least tell the HiH readers an answer b/c you are just so intelligent!! LOL!! Ask your friends @ Hardee’s to see if they can help you should you not know the correct answer……just trying to help get an answer to what is seemingly a question that doesn’t have an answer!! Only N Hunnerson!! I am sure WRAL will be in your area soon so I will make sure I keep an eye on the web to keep me informed b/c evidently everyone who decides to post on HiH really just don’t know…..they just seem to do a lot of ranting…..look in the mirror…..see what I mean?
Thanks in advance for your help!!
One of the top schools and someone finds something to complain about. If you would take time to go their site you will see that they only do a lottery if they have more than 105 applicants. So if your granddaughter wants to attend, then go to their site, fill out the app and just maybe she will be smart enough to get in.
http://hendersoncollegiate.org/about/enroll/
I even attached the link for you.
Nice try dh, but I suspect Decept is more interested in whining.
U call it whining? I call it like it is!!! & lil’ Boys like you can’t stand when u are wrong!!! U should be used 2 it!! DH…..in your haste was the comment about her “being smart enough to be get in” a mistake? Or when u win the LOTTERY do they check your IQ?
That falls right into my point!!! THANKS!! Once again, my point validated!!!
SMH @ STUPIDITY!!
Not a mistake at all. I just figured she was following your footsteps. All you do is get on here and whine with every post you make. Are you always a Negative Nancy? Instead of whining about, use your time to Google and search your facts. I posted the link for you. It will take you right to their enrollment site. It clearly states there is no lottery unless they have over 105 applicants. Unlike VC where they do have a lottery.
I think the school is wonderful. Those kids evidently are working very hard with great teachers. And before you get your panties in a wad, no I don’t have children who go there. But I wish it had been open when my daughter was in school. You can believe she would have been attending.
deception, I posted in your other rant thread the link to Henderson Collegiates lottery process, and you ignored it. Dramahater has posted it again here in this thread. You still have yet to acknowledge it, and I’m sure you’ll be back next week to complain how they don’t have a lottery process.
Well look @ this…..another shill for HC…whodathunkit?
So HC gets kids who are 2-3 yrs behind grade level & w/magic they all become proficient? LOL….even Ray Charles can see that aint right!!
Meanwhile VC has a w8ing list to get into while not doing as well? HC scores are over the top & not enough applicants to REQUIRE a lottery…by LAW? Put your spin on that concept!! Problem is I know of which I speak & the shills cant stand it!!! SMH!!!!
Shouldn’t you be getting back to Whoville, Deception? It’s getting to be time for you to steal Christmas again.
If I knew that the facts weren’t looking good for my agenda I would put up stupid posts too…problem is is NOT ONE SHILL has provided any FACTS! I am waiting on the “Magic” that HC uses to pull up scores of kids who come in 2-3 grade levels behind. I think its more probable that they try to pull in higher testing students.
FACTS DON’T LIE!!! SHILLS DO!!!
Which shill is working 3rd shift? Guess we will find out later….why was HC worried about KVA getting charter status? Did they feel like they couldn’t compete? SMH @ # of SHILLS who are so uninformed.
You make baseless accusations and we’re the shills…LOL. C’mon Decept, lighten up. You’re losing it, as if you ever had it.
Publius….glad to see you working the 3rd shift!! I mean that sincerely b/c we all know Vance Co. has one of the worst unemployment %’s in NC.
When will one of the shills answer one of my questions? Maybe they can’t?
The real truth is ……………………. VC has mostly white children with parents who have jobs and are interested in their kids education. No VC doesn’t have free/reduced lunch nor does it provide transportation yet still has enough interested parents that they require a lottery to get in. HC on the other hand has mostly black students and the students that are in the school come from mostly concerned black parents who want their children to succeed get still want all the benefits that the public school offers.(FREE lunch and FREE transportation) VC parents don’t care about the free lunch or transportation issues because most of them pack their children lunch and bring them to school themselves anyway. I believe the problem with not having enough interest in the HC school to warrant a lottery is because of the longer school days, discipline is strictly enforced there, parental involvement is expected (the real reason there isn’t more involvement) and HARD work is expected not just hoped for. I don’t for one second believe that HC hand picks students but I do believe they encourage parents with struggling children in the public school to give their school a chance. You would be amazed at how well a child will do in school when the parents are ACTIVELY working to help their child at home. Deception where do you live? I would love to know so I may do some research myself into what your town looks like, Seriously where do you live? Will you tell us?
Triple H….so you are saying that the 2 Charter Schools in Vance County have basically segregated the students? That’s interesting b/c with the charter schools using taxpayer $$$ to operate that seems ILLEGAL!!
As far as where I reside…..let me start by explaining where I don’t live. I don’t live in a county that’s 94th out of 100(according to Rusty) as far as economic development. I don’t live in a county/city that has more than subsidized housing(PROJECTS) than you could imagine. I don’t live in a county/city that is in the Top 10 in Teen Pregnancy. I don’t live in a city/county that is in the Top 10 in Unemployment. I don’t live in a city/county that the Court House is one of the more fancier buildings in downtown. I don’t live in a city/county where a clerk can STEAL over $100,000 with a novice plan right under the county managers nose and when it is brought to light(Thanks to her husband) the county manager is allowed to retire w/o any questioning!! I don’t live in a city/county where the school system is in the Top 10 Worst Performing in NC.
I hope this helps with your worrying about where I reside. If only the shills for HC could answer only 1 of the many questions I asked. I will list a couple of them again just in case one shill accidentally runs into the information and decides to provide it to the blogosphere…..Here goes…
1. How does HC take students who come to them 2-3 yrs. behind grade level in Reading/Math and produce these unimaginable Test Results(Magic?)
2. How does HC operate using Tax Payer $$ and LEGALLY suggest to a parent that maybe lil’ Johnny or lil’ Susie may not be successful @ HC? Why not just say that they hand pick the students they want?
3. If HC is the best thing since sliced bread….why aren’t more parents wanting their kids to attend? Certainly more than 105 so that a lottery can take place? IN PUBLIC like Vance Charter’s!! No matter how bad you may want it to be, it’s not b/c of the longer hours/strict disciple/etc. That all sounds good but that’s a JOKE
4. Why were some of the folks over at HC up in arms when they thought Kerr Vance Academy was going to receive a charter status from NC? Competition can only be good….unless you’re worried that KVA were going to pull some of your #’s down(which not kid ourselves…..equates to $$$$)?
That’s only 4 questions…..can one of the shills at least answer ONE? Not with the same ole’ attack the poster comments that whenever backed into a corner they shell out!! It shows that either the supporters either don’t know….don’t care….or don’t care to know!!!
I will leave with a quote that I read here on HiH some time ago. I think it applies to this situation with HC and goes something like this……….”If it walks like a duck…..talks like a duck……sugar it aint AFLAC!!!! IT’S A **** DUCK!!!”
SMH @ how one thread with a couple of questions can explode into the comment piece on HiH!! I got my big girl pants on today so I can take the heat baby…..bring it!! Just bring FACTS with you and not the same ole’ propaganda you usually bring!!!
So if you are not a residence of VC why do you concern yourself with what goes on over here? How can one thread explode into a comment piece? You make it explode with all your negativity. I agree that VC has issues,and there are things that can be done to change them, but why is it any concern of yours since you say you do not live here? You ask the same questions every time you post. We have you the answers and you still keep on with the same thing. I am so done. No more comments from me on this post. You are not even worth my time or energy.
No not illegal its the FREE lunch and transportation … believe it or not but thats the truth. VC school is mostly white where HC is mostly black. Neither of the races want to mix with the others if at all possible not to. Sad but again the truth. Most parents in our county don’t care about their kids education. We have some who do but Im sure but lots don’t. School is a free daycare. And so what if they did hand pick the kids. The lottery isn’t full so what does it matter? If someone wants to get in they can.. duh Are you just grasping for straws to have something to talk about today?? And to answer #1 A child can grow and expand in education given the right tools and enough one on one help. I suspect that is what happened with the kids that were below grade level.
#2 I already gave you the reason hours/parental involvement/ discipline etc. Just because its not the answer you want doesn’t make it any less true.
I don’t personally know anyone at HC so I can’t answer #3 but my guess might be that all of Vance county would love to say their child is now attending KVA because for years only the rich and famous of Henderson could afford it. It was the school you might say. If it because a charter school it would mean that HC children would rather go there than to HC. Charter was supportive I imagine because they don’t have a high school for their kids to go to. One is coming I hear but they have been saying that for years.
Now the questions are answered …. can your big girl panties take it or are you going to continue to say its not the right answer?? And still … are you ashamed to say where you live? If you don’t live here why not tell us where you do live?? Seems only fair. Especially since you have to tell WHO you are when Reavis serves ONE day in jail
Triple H…..”So what if they hand picked their students”….how dumb are you? You must not know where that the staff gets $$$ if Test Scores are up!!! Before you must Post something, PLEASE research it!!!
So you admit that charter is segregated? SMH!!!
Lastly, what has that fiasco a.k.a. Co. Wide Water done to your brain? Certainly you Don’t think the COUNTY CROOK will get an active sentence….SMH!!
D.H8ER…..4 lack of a better word…….BYE!!!!!
You are hysterical Deception! I could be wrong but Im pretty sure teachers are no longer getting what use to be called Merit raises or incentive raises for kids doing well
on a test. That is what was just voted on if Im correct.
Charter is not the one doing the segregation its the parents who care more about the education than the free lunch and transportation. So if Vance County parents are the ones doing the choosing then yeah they are. SMH!!!
You are ridiculous! I use to enjoy reading your post but lately all you do is gripe and complain. I agree Vance County has a lot to improve upon. I agree we have the good old boys in office making poor choices and the county crook who is never going to get what she should get, our court systems are a joke etc … but HC is doing good things, Im all for giving credit where credit is due. In all of your rants and name calling your credibility has gone wayyyy down. You won’t even say what town you actually live in but yet you come on a site and talk nonstop about a town that you dont even live in? SMH and you call us stupid! Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me
hiheyhello: Decept is just lonely. She’s alienated all her of her friends and family and uses HIH to vent her hatred. Pity her, don’t deride her.
Man, I had to catch up on this thread….Everyone stop giving Deception such a hard time. He/She? is just advocating for transparency in education…something that everyone of us should be advocating for. I also noticed a post by “realityedu”, who is an educator if I had to guess. It said charter schools don’t have the same requirements as public schools in regard to free lunch and transportation. NEWS FLASH….those things aren’t required for my kids to get a good education. They are simply liberal handouts that we are being indoctrinated to believe are necessary benefits. Saying that charter schools don’t meet the same requirements is failing to face reality that charter schools offer a better alternative to public schools, which liberal politicians and educators have ruined in the last 10-20 years.
Sargent Fri: If feeding children is liberal, well paint me red and call me Trotsky.
:)
Your RUDENESS….seems as if you have an admirer….too bad it will never work b/c “its” name doesn’t fit with you!! Maybe next time SIR RUDENESS!!!! SMH & LOL @ same time….if only others were as talented!!
P.S……which shill for HC is working 3rd shift tonight?
Shudup Decept. You’re getting old.
Just the Facts,
I understand your point. Charters are a great option for students. However, children are at the mercy of their parents. A 5-6 year old cannot help that his/her mother or father makes bad decisions. They are not the same. A charter school can set a capacity of their school. A traditional public school can not. If more than 100 or 105 want to attend the new school year they have to have a lottery and only those kids can get in. Where do the other kids go? What if public schools have a number of kids they would accept before they were full?
I am not bashing either charter school but they can not be compared equally. I find it funny that when Vance County Schools received the grant to give all students free-lunch, we did not see people upset about the “handout”. It seemed all socio-economic levels enjoyed the free lunch that was provided.
Both charter schools are a viable option for students in VCS but someone still has to teach the students and attempt to give them a chance. Even if their parents neglect to care about the value of education.
SIR RUDENESS……w/all the talk of charter schools I would expect a little more CLASS from you lil’ man!!!! Well…..on 2nd thought…..maybe not. G’nite troll….catch ya’ tomorrow!!! SMH!!!
I would like to correct a common misconception regarding charter schools. If a student qualifies for free lunch, the charter must provide lunch for that student. Likewise if a student needs transportation to school, the charter must provide transportation.
If anyone is interested in learning more about hHenderson Collegiate’s methods,techniques,and philosophy, I recommend reading Work Hard. Be Nice: How Two Inspired Teachers Created The Most Promising Schools In America by Jay Matthews and Teach Like A Champion: 49 Techniques That Put Students On The Path To College by Doug Lemov and Norman Atkins.
Wrong. Charter schools are NOT required to offer these services. Read the regulations for NC charter schools.
Before the shills for HC got excited the whole point of the thread in the beginning was to say that “everything that glitters ain’t gold”!! How do you proclaim that you are doing SOOOO much better than School “X” b/c of your scores? When the truth came out….very slowly I might add…..it was noticed that if HC thinks a kid is not going to “fit” into HC then the brass at HC will try to convince the guardian/parent to give the public school system another try. That’s a nice way to say that your Lil’ Johnny or Lil’ Suzie isn’t smart enough to attend HC b/c they will bring the scores down and thus a lil’ bit of shine won’t be as shiny as it was previously. If you are a TRUE EDUCATOR how do you look into a student’s eyes and tell them that HC isn’t meant for them? Whatever happened to “It takes a village”? Why not say what I said from the beginning…….when you want credit for something make sure you know of which you speak b/c if you’re blowing smoke then it will be called for what it is……A PRIVATE CHARTER school that only accepts higher performing students and prefers that they be from low-income families!!!!!
SMH!!!!
I’m still not seeing a problem with that.
You’re right. It is legal in their charter. So I’m okay as long as the two aren’t compared as equal.
I see nothing wrong with it!?! I don’t either……just don’t accept TAX $$$$ to operate your “private charter” school!! I wonder how long it would take for every news organization to be in front of Southern Vance High School or Henderson Middle School if the brass @ those schools wouldn’t allow a student to attend b/c they weren’t reading on grade level!!! And you call yourselves “educators”? SMH!!!! Maybe you should say that you like to TEACH…..but only if you’re not below grade level!! and only if you don’t have any discipline problems!!….and only if you will receive free/reduced lunch!!
I know some of the shills for HC can’t be very smart and that’s why I try to give as many examples and visuals that I can…….even most animals can be taught!!!
Here’s an example of the shills comments on HC: We have just reinvented the wheel!!! Look no kidding!! We received the best possible results from State Testing and our teachers are GRRRREAT!!!!( well they are okay but they only like to teach smart kids)
Seriously though, if all the shills who have called their buddies and gotten them to participate on this topic will get out and vote next week Henderson may be on the way out of the dump……I mean you do have a Mayor’s contest….couple of City Council seats as well……I mean if they are as good as HC then maybe….just maybe Vance County will climb out of the 94th ranked county out of 100 and get all the way into the low 90’s!!! That’s a goal all of the shills can say they helped achieve!!! SMH!! SMH!!
Right. The actual comparison should be charter schools > public schools.
For your area this may be more appropriate:
VC > HC
& they do a PUBLIC LOTTERY and DON’T hand pick students and have a waiting list b/c parents are fed up with the public schools in Vance County and …………………..you fill in the rest. I need that app that JTF and other shills have….you know that app that makes a noise like a doorbell ringing each & every time a new post is put onto HiH. Where did you get those? Let me guess……….HC brass ordered them for you? With tax $$$$ I’m sure. SMH!!!
Like it or not, up until Sunday when the shills came on HiH to pound their chests about how good HC was & I challenged the article and the stats this thread was only @ about 12-13 posts…..if only the shills were as passionate about Litter in Vance County or Dilapidated Houses or Animal Shelter then & only then can you “pound your chests”!! SMH!!!
Oh…..about the upcoming election even though no county commissioners are on the ballot. How less than intelligent elected officials in Vance County? I was told by J.Q.P. last night that your animal shelter was going to be taken over by the State if certain conditions weren’t taken care of. Thus…..a local businessman and his wife DONATED land for a new animal shelter to be build that would get the State folks off your backs & what happens next? I was told he had to get his atty. to put it into the clause that if not built or at least started to build it within 5 years he & his wife would get the land back!! REALLY? Somebody gives you something(most citizens of Vance County should be used to handouts) & you lack the vision & responsibility to do it in a timely fashion? SMH!!!
What are you waiting for? I guess you thought he was going to have some materials left over from the new bldg. his company built over by the Hospital & he would get his architects to build it for you? That’s the Vance County work ethic in living color!!! SMH!!
Town you live in please …. until then I’m not sure anyone will even try hear what you have to say about our town …. except maybe publius
I’m pretty sure it cowers in Granville County somewhere.
Liar Liar…..as is the norm 4 u lil’ man you are WRONG again!!!! Have you ever posted anything on HiH of any substance? Shouldn’t you be on the porch looking for the mailman? Oh…..I forgot….you get your check on the 1st!!! SMH @ stupidity!!!
Realityedu, I believe you are correct regarding charters not being required to provide free lunch, although Vance Charter does provide it for children who qualify. However, Vance Charter’s website does state they are obligated to provide transportation for any student living in Vance County.
How do they provide free lunch? What vendor do they buy the food from? I know they have meal orders that parents pick up from big cheese, McDonald’s, etc. Free lunch is a federal program that requires the good meets certain criteria ( nutrition, etc). I am not saying they do not, but would be interested to know how they are going about this.
I think all students in the county should be put in the lottery and then a parent has to opt out of the charter school if their child got into the charter. Look on school report card for average class sizes. It is no surprise that average class sizes in traditional schools are several students higher than charters.
Charter schools in vance county outperform the traditional schools for several reasons. Some reasons are better, more involved families who want their child to do well. Another reason is good, solid teaching.
well home in henderson man looks like your paid agitator deshittion has got you some of your all time high in number of comments
Jack, there are threads from back in the day that have way more comments than this.
JJ…..yep!! You see the traffic when I post comments & when I Don’t? HiH almost had as many shills on here as the # of dilapidated houses in the city!! Too bad they won’t get a handout like the slumlords who let taxpayer $$$ tear down their properties. Funny thing is some of the slumlords have some buddies on city council & county commisioners!!! SMH!!!
Can the shills carry on dialogue w/o me on HiH? Let’s see………
Sure, Decept, you’re an angry obnoxiox old biddy. Where do you live if not Granville County, which yesterday you denired. Make more baseless accusations toward me. “Stupid, Liar, hypocrite. ” I can handle it. Does anybody in Vance County claim to be informing this cretin about what’s going on? I mean this jerk claims to have an intelligence network as powerful as the CIA. Pathetic
let me tell you something deshition on the old hih i got more posts than you will ever get of course i was someone else
“Still waiting to know about the procedure on how to get my granddaughter into HC since evidently their isn’t a lottery?” Okay, Deception, back to school for you. There is a big difference between THERE, THEIR AND THEY’RE…since you’re such a nit-picker.
I guess my Vance County education really didn’t teach me much? Oops…..I did learn one thing through the years spent in your city……here are a few:
1. Way too many schools that are just daycares b/c most parents don’t care what the kids learn…..as long as they are out of the house during the day
2. Way too much nepotism in the local offices as well as the school system
3. Way too many potholes on the roads…..city & county
4. Way too much trash beside MAJOR roads leading into Henderson
5. Way too many people who either don’t work or don’t want to work…..how could you hang out on the porch all day and go to a job?6
6. Way too many stores that are CLOSED downtown
7. Way too many Churches for such a small area…..How many Churches can one city/county fit into a strip mall? Henderson/Vance may hold the World Record?
8. Way too many people living off grandmas/grandpas namesake……We call it the “silver spoon syndrome”….look it up….if you know how
9. Way too many “convenient” stores…….and $$ stores!!! Sends a statement to visitors when you have 5-6 $$$ stores in one county.
10. DO YOU REALLY NEED A # 10?
Say what you want…….Henderson & Vance County have become what YOU made them…..not me!!! Are you proud? Really proud? I can tell when I see the litter all over your streets that people are really proud of your area!!! Keep up the good work!! You may rise from 94th to 91-92!!! SMH!!!
10. Deception
Thanks Decept for your reminder. Other than being a jerk, what is your point?
Zep, Maybe your granddaughter should apply
“Oops…..I did learn one thing through the years spent in your city……here are a few:” Can’t even count. One thing does not mean 9 things. I was not educated in NC, much less Vance Co. and I learned that one means one.
Zep…..common core is working 4 you!!! Too bad you are 1 of few!!! I do know this….I Don’t have to see signs that say DUMP ahead…..I can usually tell by the amount of trash!! Analyze that!!!
SMH!!! You fit the profile of most bloggers on HiH…..nothing useful to say …just tell wanna analyze my FACTS!!!! Hardees must stay busy…..LOL!!!
I waited for your reply with baited breath! When all else fails, be hateful. What makes you think anything you post is ‘useful’? Well, it does keep people like me entertained. Thanks for that. Oh, yes, is SMH the newest word in your vocabulary?
Decept: “…just tell wanna analyze my FACTS!!!” Is that supposed to be English?
Since it is HiH & majority of the population does not have a very high IQ I figured its the only way for the village idiots to be able to understand the posts!!! SMH!!! @ a citizen of a county where a novice steals hundreds of thousands of dollars right under the county managers nose has the nerve to question a post!!! DUMB DUMB…..its your DUMP…not mine!!! Brag about it!! Walk with your head Held high!!! Just dont get your underwear in a knot when people LAUGH @ your city/county.
Head to one of the many $$$ stores & buy you a “Self help” book!! I can’t help the fact that you are stuck THERE!!!! SMH while ROFLMAO!!! Maybe stupid is in the water? Analyze that lil’ Boy!!!
Let me help you Decept…
“…does not not have a very high IQ, I figured…” notice the comma.
“…I figured it’s the only way…” notice the contraction.
“…right under the county manager’s nose…” notice the use of the possessive.
“Just don’t get your…” congrats Decept…you got “your” right, but you messed up the contraction again.
Again you capitalize random words…”Held”… “Boy”
Where did you learn English boy? Reform school?
Publius…..evidently you didn’t get to your Health/PE class in middle school b/c you never learned the difference between a boy and a girl? Just ask one of your shils @ Hardee’s…maybe they can help you! Like I have said from the beginning you never have anything useful to post….is it b/c you aren’t that smart? Maybe? Anyway, until you have something useful to say I will leave you with this last quote…..It goes something like this……you ready? Read it slow so you can understand it lil’ boy:
“It is better to be thought a FOOL…..than to open one’s mouth & remove all doubt”…..or in your case turn on your computer and let your keyboard remove all doubt!!
Here’s a novel idea for you & some of your shills…….spend less time checking HiH to see what I have posted and go around your dump(town) and pick up some of the trash that lines maybe of your streets. If that seems like too much work for you then go to your BIG library and get a Sex Ed Book so that you can look at the pictures and maybe you will understand the difference between a boy & a girl. Sorry you never got to experience it……..maybe that’s why you stay so MAD all the time!?! LOL!!!! I can only imagine the “frustration” you are feeling……SMH!!!!
Publius, I don’t know who you are but I like you….lol. Keep Decept in check.
Is an endorsement from Elissa Yount a positive for a candidate? She was elected and then voted right out of office. She has an incredibly negative view of the city, remember her arrogant rant on the radio with George Rush about how rude every store clerk is in town and that there is nothing good here. She walked into the station, demanded airtime and got it, then proceeded to say some really nasty things about the people who live and work here. Voters are looking for candidates with pride, optimism and ideas about the area, not someone who can only tear down and criticize and offer no solutions because they are bitter about losing an election…..
I listened to the entire recent broadcast of the candidate’s forum. Some candidates were impressive and some were obviously not ready for office yet but their effort is still to be admired.
Would have liked to have heard more discussion about crime solutions like curfews, the county and city governments working together to solve issues or even a merging of the 2 bodies, discussion about charter and public schools, does the candidate support the local water system and the role it plays in bringing development here – heard one good candidate say raising rates on corporations was a solution for easing rates on citizens while wanting new business to come here – may want to rethink that idea….
To run for office during such challenging times requires courage, a positive attitude, excellent financial and negotiating skills and a personality that will unite the community. It seems like there were a lot of new and fresh voices at the forum as well as voices of experience. The coming elections will be very interesting, indeed.